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Interview: SF local, Jeremiah Owyang — January 28, 2013

Interview: SF local, Jeremiah Owyang

In celebration of Community Manager Appreciation Day, we chat to the day’s inventor – long-term digital influencer and web strategist, Jeremiah Owyang. If you don’t already, follow him on Twitter @jowyang.

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You published the Four Tenets of the Community Manager back in 2007 – do you think the role has changed much since then?

Essentially, no, those tenets still stand, but we’ve seen more tools emerge, and the demand for community managers has increased. It’s a common and acceptable role now, and they’re starting to be seated in customer support, product marketing, and corporate communications.

I’ve noticed a fair bit of discussion re: ‘social media’ verse ‘community’. How do you differentiate between the two and should it be a sperate role from a CM?

It’s all the same. Prior, online communities predated social networks, so the term Community Manager predated and stuck around. In the end of the day, community management teams must go where customers are, and that can’t be bound by a URL.

What companies do you think are doing community well?

Adobe has built a structure of community managers lead by Rachel Luxemburg and helped to unite many different community leads into a more solidified group. Also, The Home Depot has large scale communities that have Orange Apron specialists take time out from being on the show floor and have dedicated time in the community to help customers.

What metrics do you recommend from your research to measure the impact and success of community initiatives?

Here’s where the industry is falling down. Many are measuring simple engagement metrics (number of users, number of comments) but those mean little to nothing, outside of business context.

In the long run, companies must start measuring community based on the following: Increase in revenue (or assisting revenue), customer satisfaction, market share of voice, reduced support costs, and improved product innovation.

Anything else is just a variable that needs to feed into those formulas.

What is Community Management Appreciation Day and why did you set it up?

Community Manager Appreciation Day is a day to take time out and thank the hard working Community Managers around the globe that may have helped you as a customer, or someone you may work with. This role is changing the face of business, by providing a human aspect to formerly dry and boring static corporate websites. These folks are leading the charge to being engaged and listening to customers, making company and customer relations two-way and dynamic, all online.

How can people get involved in this year’s activities?

It’s simple, please thank a community manager for their help, there’s nothing else required, although some have received cakes, cards, thank you notes and meals. There are also events happening online, and in physical locations, all around the globe. To find out about these events, watch the #CMAD link on Twitter and see this list of events I’m tracking on my blog.

Jeremiah-SCS11Check out Jeremiah’s posts for more community and social updates -> http://www.web-strategist.com

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About our Curator // Kate Kendall is the founder and CEO of The Fetch, a community where professionals can discover and share what’s happening in their city. Before this, Kate led product, content and digital at magazine companies, handled outreach for new startups and organised too many communities and events. Follow her on Twitter at @katekendall.

Interview: SF local, Ligaya Tichy — January 27, 2013

Interview: SF local, Ligaya Tichy

To celebrate Community Manager Appreciation Day, we chat to one of community’s original heroes, Ligaya Tichy, about what she’s been up to and what she’s got planned.

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You call yourself a ‘Community Architect’ – what does this mean?

I help companies build a passionate, loyal user base. Generally, community folks obsess about experience of a product or service from a participant’s perspective. What is the value in participating for the individual, how does it move the needle for the company? What is the relationship and interaction between them, and from user-to-user? The Community Architect defines this strategy through product features, offline interaction, and in communication via email or social media.

You’re an advisor to startups like ThreadFlip and Skillshare – do you think companies are starting to realise how important community is to business?

Within the startup world, “Community Management” has become a buzzword in the last few years, no doubt thanks to Yelp. But there is much confusion about where it fits amongst marketing and support. I think about it in terms of function; marketing is externally-focused and geared towards acquisition; community focuses on internal user engagement and loyalty, growth is a bi-product.

The foundations of community: engagement, advocacy, ambassadorship, and loyalty, are not new themes in the worlds of marketing and advertising. Startups have appropriated these principles and given new nomenclature, but the essence is the same. They work across industries, whatever the names, because they speak to universal human drives and motivations.

Do all businesses need community? Well, would your love for Coca Cola be enriched by drinking one amongst the company of others who dig it? Some companies seem to make more sense than others.

yelpLigaya Yelping with crew back in 2008

You’ve worked in senior community roles for Airbnb and Yelp – how do you think the role’s evolved over the past five years?

The value of community differs greatly depending on the business – there is no universal formula – and I think companies are starting to see that you can’t just replicate programs and expect to have the same success.

A lot of companies hire recent grads to handle community – do you think there’s much career progression for senior CMs?

Like many careers, one starts on the front lines, moves to a leadership role within the organization, then tackles the higher level strategy, or starts a new project.

If someone is relatively green but passionate about a product and thinks deeply about how to make the experience better, that’s far more valuable than an experienced person who isn’t invested.

airbnb-londonLigaya worked as the Global Head of Community for Airbnb

Community Management Appreciation Day is on Monday Jan 28 – why do you think this day is important and what activities do you have planned?

CMAD is important in raising awareness about the mission and challenges of community folk, and gives us the opportunity to connect and swap stories!

There are many activities planned in the Bay Area such as Community Hacks and Strategy TNT. This year I’m kicking off a series of quarterly workshops for community builders called Together Labs. Through small group exercises people explore community beyond the context of their own companies.

What events and communities do you recommend in the Bay Area?

That depends on what you’re into, but of course The Fetch is a great resource to find out what’s happening in the startup scene and The Bold Italic features the fun and fresh in the city. I belong to the ForageSF community and really enjoy the happenings of SFFT, and of course Yelp is in my heart. Mortified and Tourettes Without Regrets are immensely entertaining events for the silly. Happy exploring!

Check out Ligaya’s TEDxSoMa talk: Rethinking Startup Communities here.

For a great round-up of upcoming community events and news from Together Labs plus other related goodness, subscribe our free email digests via The Fetch.

About our Curator // Kate Kendall is the founder and CEO of The Fetch, a community where professionals can discover and share what’s happening in their city. Before this, Kate led product, content and digital at magazine companies, handled outreach for new startups and organised too many communities and events to mention. Follow her on Twitter at @katekendall. 

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